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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:00 am | Updated: 12:36 am, Thu Jul 18, 2013.

By Nathan Mayberg

Columbia-Greene Media

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  • elaine posted at 10:56 am on Fri, Jul 19, 2013.

    elaine Posts: 379

    I think it is unfortunate that this happened at all and wish the focus would be on helping others from choosing the same fate instead of arguing about the equipment and who is supposed to have it. This was not the first time for the bridge and everything needs to be put into perspective to prevent future acts of desperation. Were the proper signs and hotlines available? Are families able to recognize the signs of potential suicide? Post Suicide info and hotlines as much as possible to help people who don't know where to turn or are caught up in the moment and make bad choices. Reach out. Help.
    I think it is good for our county to be self sufficient when possible in having quick access to needed equipment. Perhaps there is also a way to have an inventory analysis and comparison that would prevent unnecessary expenditures . The complaints seem to indicate not trusting how the money is being spent The help received was quick, spot on and I'm sure greatly appreciated.

  • Richards1970 posted at 8:56 am on Fri, Jul 19, 2013.

    Richards1970 Posts: 1

    I moved here from a southern state several years ago and I have many relatives in new york city. In the south the Sheriff is the main law enforcement. Relying on local officials for our safety has been found to be the best, most efficient and safest way to address our immediate community safety.

    Every emergency, disaster wether its a terrorist threat or a tornado, starts and stops locally. We are the ones who are effected long term. Unfortunately nyc they found out the hard way with the tragic events of 9/11/2001. New york city now does not depend on the federal or state government for their safety, they realized that they must do it themselves to be truly as safe as possible.

    So I commend the local Sheriff and other local officials for doing everything they can to be prepared. I want officials who live here with us, have family and friends here to be responsible for our safety. Then the state and federal government should supplement what our local officials need ...not the other way around.

  • ddgar posted at 8:10 am on Thu, Jul 18, 2013.

    ddgar Posts: 7

    InformedVoter turns out just to be another pompous know-it-all who easily impresses himself with what he thinks he knows.

  • clav-resident posted at 7:55 am on Thu, Jul 18, 2013.

    clav-resident Posts: 6

    A tragedy for the Family.
    I commend the Sheriff's Office and all Emergency Service responders.
    "Informedvoters" comments are unfortunate.

  • Joe the Real posted at 10:51 pm on Wed, Jul 17, 2013.

    Joe the Real Posts: 497

    Sorry pious outraged commentators, I have to agree with "informed voter." This has nothing to do with my heartfelt condolences to the family aggrieved by this stupid and senseless loss. But, it is just ghoulish and PR excess that the Sheriff tried to pile on for brownie points when this service used to be provided free of charge by the State Police and Coast Guard, and now that the Sheriffs have expanded their mandate, and pensions, yet again, we see the evils of politically elected law enforcement. Bad idea. Bad outcome.

    That said, yes, our wishes and and condolences to the family bereaved. But, let's not let the impact of tragedy blind us to paying triple for a formerly state funded service. We pay three taxes (village, town, and county - not counting education district) - is it a grave offense to point this out and call for consolidation? To the Stalinists who run our local government and like lizards disguise themselves as Republicans, yes, that's their tactic. But, why fall for it?

  • stonepound posted at 11:25 pm on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    stonepound Posts: 131

    god bless the family.

  • Craziness posted at 3:35 pm on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    Craziness Posts: 1

    May he rest in peace and may his family find strength to handle this tragedy. (Save your political posts for a letter to the editor! Are you heartless?)

  • InformedVoter posted at 2:18 pm on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    InformedVoter Posts: 2

    Delete my comment? No, this informed voter won't be silenced by a political machine that organizes comments and messages to shush the concerned taxpayers. The accident investigation team that was used at the Route 9 accident in Greenport -- just another example of a Sheriff's Office that has gone rouge and is unwilling to use shared resources. The State has a highly trained team that could have been used at no cost to the County. But instead we have to have our own, paying all the salary, training, equipment, response vehicle, etc. The days of unfeddered spending must end. These aren't emergency teams, don't be fooled. Fiscal oversight and accountability is needed. Next, lets talk about abrupt retirements of key administration.

  • Raine posted at 12:32 pm on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    Raine Posts: 1

    Dear InformedVoter,

    Have your political views made you so callous that you would not even take into consideration that a human being is dead? I truly wonder if you would be saying such a cold heartless thing if that were your son, brother, husband that was found dead yesterday.

    Life, and death -- humanity in general used to trump money and political ideology. What you wrote is cold heartless and just mean considering the man who is no longer with us resided in Livingston. It wouldn't be a huge leap to assume that he has family and friends that live there as well.

    Please consider deleting what you wrote.

  • elaine posted at 12:10 pm on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    elaine Posts: 379

    The poor guy, his family and friends. Too bad .

  • gtownr posted at 11:17 am on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    gtownr Posts: 16

    So I suppose if that were your relative you wouldn't want them found ASAP? How pathetic of you to use a tragedy to promote your views on budget matters.

  • ddgar posted at 11:16 am on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    ddgar Posts: 7

    Services provided by outside agencies are only useful when they are available when you need them. Believe me; they are not always available when you need them and when available could be hours or days away. The state doesn’t provide anything “no charge”. Just like the county’s side-scan sonar, you paid for everything the state has. Nothing is free.

    Emergency service organizations of all types have needed to purchase equipment that might be necessarily available at a moment’s notice because to wait for an outside agency to provide it may take too long especially when it involves a life. Many fire departments have spent many thousands of dollars on needed equipment including thermal imaging cameras and gas meters that display levels of carbon monoxide, combustible gases, some poison gases and even oxygen to ensure there is enough to safely work without self-contained breathing apparatus.

    It all costs thousands of dollars that you paid for, either through donations or taxes. Mobile command and communications vehicles and the like are included and although not needed on a daily basis, they are still needed when the occasion arises.

    Training on specialized equipment doesn’t necessarily have an additional cost as long as there is no overtime being paid for the training. Since training is something that can be scheduled, overtime should not be used.

    I agree that there are services that should be shared, most emergency services are not included unless those services could be provided in a very short timeframe. Don’t forget that there are some towns that have stopped providing police services only to rely on the Sheriffs and State Police. Did the Sheriffs and State Police add more units to handle the additional load? Probably not, although they may have redirected resources and possibly had to pay overtime to cover some of those shifts. And you paid for that too. Remember, nothing is free and every service must be paid for somehow.

    To put the shoe on the other foot, we all pay for services through taxes, contributions, rent and probably other ways. Therefore we should expect to receive some level of services, but don’t complain when the service is not available for lack of equipment or lack of manpower. Agencies are being forced to do more with less but in many instances you can only do less with less. That is what happens with fiscal restraint that forces conservative management of limited resources.

  • sleepy hollow posted at 10:56 am on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    sleepy hollow Posts: 37

    A suicide is a tragedy. Captain Bartlett and our Sheriff's Department are to be commended for their excellent efforts in cooperation with the County Coroner. As local neighbors and elected officials, they are the best equipped agency to provide sensitivity and respect to the deceased and survivors.

  • InformedVoter posted at 8:14 am on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    InformedVoter Posts: 2

    So the taxpayers of Columbia County are now paying for the Sheriff's Office to operate a side-scan sonar system? A service once provided by the State at no charge. While its probably true that a grant helped purchase the equipment (at least I'd hope so, it does for most agencies) the real expense of such a system is the training (personnel hours) and maintenance. So instead of sharing services with the State, we now must pay for our own county system. Another example of our Sheriff's Office competing with other agencies at our expense. It's time for some fiscal restraint and conservative management.